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Numbered Discourses · AN 4.105

  • Numbered Discourses 4.105Aṅguttara Nikāya 4.105
  • 11. Clouds11. Valāhakavagga

MangoesAmbasutta

“Mendicants, there are these four mangoes.“Cattārimāni, bhikkhave, ambāni. What four?Katamāni cattāri?

  1. One is unripe but seems ripe,Āmaṁ pakkavaṇṇi,
  2. one is ripe but seems unripe,pakkaṁ āmavaṇṇi,
  3. one is unripe and seems unripe, andāmaṁ āmavaṇṇi,
  4. one is ripe and seems ripe.pakkaṁ pakkavaṇṇi—

These are the four mangoes.Imāni kho, bhikkhave, cattāri ambāni.

In the same way, these four individuals similar to mangoes are found in the world.Evamevaṁ kho, bhikkhave, cattāro ambūpamā puggalā santo saṁvijjamānā lokasmiṁ. What four?Katame cattāro?

  1. One is unripe but seems ripe,Āmo pakkavaṇṇī,
  2. one is ripe but seems unripe,pakko āmavaṇṇī,
  3. one is unripe and seems unripe, andāmo āmavaṇṇī,
  4. one is ripe and seems ripe.pakko pakkavaṇṇī.

And how is an individual unripe but seems ripe?Kathañca, bhikkhave, puggalo āmo hoti pakkavaṇṇī? It’s when an individual is impressive when going out and coming back, when looking ahead and aside, when bending and extending the limbs, and when bearing the outer robe, bowl and robes.Idha, bhikkhave, ekaccassa puggalassa pāsādikaṁ hoti abhikkantaṁ paṭikkantaṁ ālokitaṁ vilokitaṁ samiñjitaṁ pasāritaṁ saṅghāṭipattacīvaradhāraṇaṁ. But they don’t really understand: ‘This is suffering’ … ‘This is the origin of suffering’ … ‘This is the cessation of suffering’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering’.So ‘idaṁ dukkhan’ti yathābhūtaṁ nappajānāti …pe… ‘ayaṁ dukkhanirodhagāminī paṭipadā’ti yathābhūtaṁ nappajānāti. That’s how an individual is unripe but seems ripe.Evaṁ kho, bhikkhave, puggalo āmo hoti pakkavaṇṇī. That individual is like a mango that’s unripe but seems ripe, I say.Seyyathāpi taṁ, bhikkhave, ambaṁ āmaṁ pakkavaṇṇi;

And how is an individual ripe but seems unripe?Kathañca, bhikkhave, puggalo pakko hoti āmavaṇṇī? It’s when an individual is not impressive …Idha, bhikkhave, ekaccassa puggalassa na pāsādikaṁ hoti abhikkantaṁ paṭikkantaṁ ālokitaṁ vilokitaṁ samiñjitaṁ pasāritaṁ saṅghāṭipattacīvaradhāraṇaṁ. But they really understand: ‘This is suffering’ …So ‘idaṁ dukkhan’ti yathābhūtaṁ pajānāti …pe… ‘ayaṁ dukkhanirodhagāminī paṭipadā’ti yathābhūtaṁ pajānāti.

And how is an individual unripe and seems unripe?Kathañca, bhikkhave, puggalo āmo hoti āmavaṇṇī? It’s when an individual is not impressive …Idha, bhikkhave, ekaccassa puggalassa na pāsādikaṁ hoti abhikkantaṁ paṭikkantaṁ ālokitaṁ vilokitaṁ samiñjitaṁ pasāritaṁ saṅghāṭipattacīvaradhāraṇaṁ. Nor do they really understand: ‘This is suffering’ …So ‘idaṁ dukkhan’ti yathābhūtaṁ nappajānāti …pe… ‘ayaṁ dukkhanirodhagāminī paṭipadā’ti yathābhūtaṁ nappajānāti.

And how is an individual ripe and seems ripe?Kathañca, bhikkhave, puggalo pakko hoti pakkavaṇṇī? It’s when an individual is impressive …Idha, bhikkhave, ekaccassa puggalassa pāsādikaṁ hoti abhikkantaṁ paṭikkantaṁ ālokitaṁ vilokitaṁ samiñjitaṁ pasāritaṁ saṅghāṭipattacīvaradhāraṇaṁ. And they really understand: ‘This is suffering’ …So ‘idaṁ dukkhan’ti yathābhūtaṁ pajānāti …pe… ‘ayaṁ dukkhanirodhagāminī paṭipadā’ti yathābhūtaṁ pajānāti.

These four individuals similar to mangoes are found in the world.”Ime kho, bhikkhave, cattāro ambūpamā puggalā santo saṁvijjamānā lokasmin”ti.

Similar passages elsewhere

Found by meaning, not by citation: the passages in other texts whose wording sits closest to a passage here.

  1. AN 4.103 Pots 0.60near 4.3It’s when an individual is impressive … And they truly understand: ‘This is suffering’ … These four individuals similar to pots are found in the world.”…
  2. AN 4.104 Lakes 0.60near 4.3It’s when an individual is not impressive … Nor do they really understand: ‘This is suffering’ … And how is an individual deep and appears deep? It’s when an individual is impressive … And they really understand: ‘This i…
  3. AN 4.107 Mice 0.57near 4.3But they really understand: ‘This is suffering’ … And how does an individual neither make a hole nor live in it? It’s when an individual doesn’t memorize the teaching … Nor do they really understand: ‘This is suffering’…
  4. AN 4.106 Mangoes (2nd) 0.55near 0.1Numbered Discourses 4.106 11. Clouds Mangoes (2nd) (This is a ghost sutta: there is no text for it in any available editions.)…
  5. AN 4.102 Clouds (2nd) 0.51near 0.1Numbered Discourses 4.102 11. Clouds Clouds (2nd) “Mendicants, there are these four kinds of clouds. What four? One thunders but doesn’t rain, one rains but doesn’t thunder, one neither thunders nor rains, and one both r…