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  • Linked Discourses 17.25Saṁyutta Nikāya 17.25
  • Chapter Three3. Tatiyavagga

Ascetics and BrahminsSamaṇabrāhmaṇasutta

At Sāvatthī.Sāvatthiyaṁ viharati.

“Mendicants, there are ascetics and brahmins who don’t truly understand the gratification, drawback, and escape when it comes to possessions, honor, and popularity.“Ye hi keci, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā lābhasakkārasilokassa assādañca ādīnavañca nissaraṇañca yathābhūtaṁ nappajānanti, I don’t deem them as true ascetics and brahmins. Those venerables don’t realize the goal of life as an ascetic or brahmin, and don’t live having realized it with their own insight in this very life.na me te, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā samaṇesu vā samaṇasammatā brāhmaṇesu vā brāhmaṇasammatā, na ca pana te āyasmantā sāmaññatthaṁ vā brahmaññatthaṁ vā diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharanti.

There are ascetics and brahmins who do truly understand the gratification, drawback, and escape when it comes to possessions, honor, and popularity.Ye ca kho keci, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā lābhasakkārasilokassa assādañca ādīnavañca nissaraṇañca yathābhūtaṁ pajānanti, I deem them as true ascetics and brahmins. Those venerables realize the goal of life as an ascetic or brahmin, and live having realized it with their own insight.”te ca kho me, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā samaṇesu ceva samaṇasammatā brāhmaṇesu ca brāhmaṇasammatā, te ca panāyasmanto sāmaññatthañca brahmaññatthañca diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharantī”ti.

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  2. SN 17.26 Ascetics and Brahmins (2nd) 0.78near 0.1Linked Discourses 17.26 Chapter Three Ascetics and Brahmins (2nd) At Sāvatthī. “There are ascetics and brahmins who don’t truly understand the origin, disappearance, gratification, drawback, and escape when it comes to p…
  3. SN 17.27 Ascetics and Brahmins (3rd) 0.74near 0.1Linked Discourses 17.27 Chapter Three Ascetics and Brahmins (3rd) At Sāvatthī. “There are ascetics and brahmins who don’t truly understand possessions, honor, and popularity, their origin, their cessation, and the path t…
  4. SN 12.13 Ascetics and Brahmins 0.71near 0.1Linked Discourses 12.13 2. Fuel Ascetics and Brahmins At Sāvatthī. “Mendicants, there are ascetics and brahmins who don’t understand old age and death, their origin, their cessation, and the practice that leads to their…
  5. SN 14.37 Ascetics and Brahmins 0.71near 0.1Linked Discourses 14.37 4. Chapter Four Ascetics and Brahmins At Sāvatthī. “Mendicants, there are these four elements. What four? The elements of earth, water, fire, and air. There are ascetics and brahmins who don’t tru…