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  • Linked Discourses 22.38Saṁyutta Nikāya 22.38
  • 4. It’s Not Yours4. Natumhākavagga

With Ānanda (2nd)Dutiyaānandasutta

At Sāvatthī.Sāvatthinidānaṁ.

Sitting to one side, the Buddha said to Ānanda:Ekamantaṁ nisinnaṁ kho āyasmantaṁ ānandaṁ bhagavā etadavoca:

“Ānanda, suppose they were to ask you:“Sace taṁ, ānanda, evaṁ puccheyyuṁ: ‘Reverend Ānanda, what are the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting were evident?‘katamesaṁ, āvuso ānanda, dhammānaṁ uppādo paññāyittha, vayo paññāyittha, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyittha? What are the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting will be evident?Katamesaṁ dhammānaṁ uppādo paññāyissati, vayo paññāyissati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyissati? What are the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting are evident?’Katamesaṁ dhammānaṁ uppādo paññāyati, vayo paññāyati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyatī’ti? How would you answer?”Evaṁ puṭṭho tvaṁ, ānanda, kinti byākareyyāsī”ti?

“Sir, suppose they were to ask me:“Sace maṁ, bhante, evaṁ puccheyyuṁ: ‘Reverend Ānanda, what are the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting were evident?‘katamesaṁ, āvuso ānanda, dhammānaṁ uppādo paññāyittha, vayo paññāyittha, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyittha? What are the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting will be evident?Katamesaṁ dhammānaṁ uppādo paññāyissati, vayo paññāyissati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyissati? What are the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting are evident?’Katamesaṁ dhammānaṁ uppādo paññāyati, vayo paññāyati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyatī’ti? I’d answer like this:Evaṁ puṭṭhohaṁ, bhante, evaṁ byākareyyaṁ:

‘Whatever form has passed, ceased, and perished,‘yaṁ kho, āvuso, rūpaṁ atītaṁ niruddhaṁ vipariṇataṁ; its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting were evident.tassa uppādo paññāyittha, vayo paññāyittha, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyittha. Whatever feeling …Yā vedanā atītā niruddhā vipariṇatā; perception …Yā saññā … choices …ye saṅkhārā atītā niruddhā vipariṇatā; consciousness has passed, ceased, and perished,Yaṁ viññāṇaṁ atītaṁ niruddhaṁ vipariṇataṁ; its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting were evident.tassa uppādo paññāyittha, vayo paññāyittha, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyittha. These are the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting were evident.Imesaṁ kho, āvuso, dhammānaṁ uppādo paññāyittha, vayo paññāyittha, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyittha.

Whatever form is not yet born, and has not yet appeared,Yaṁ kho, āvuso, rūpaṁ ajātaṁ apātubhūtaṁ; its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting will be evident.tassa uppādo paññāyissati, vayo paññāyissati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyissati. Whatever feeling …Yā vedanā ajātā apātubhūtā; perception …Yā saññā …pe… choices …ye saṅkhārā ajātā apātubhūtā; consciousness is not yet born, and has not yet appeared,Yaṁ viññāṇaṁ ajātaṁ apātubhūtaṁ; its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting will be evident.tassa uppādo paññāyissati, vayo paññāyissati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyissati. These are the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting will be evident.Imesaṁ kho, āvuso, dhammānaṁ uppādo paññāyissati, vayo paññāyissati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyissati.

Whatever form has been born, and has appeared,Yaṁ kho, āvuso, rūpaṁ jātaṁ pātubhūtaṁ; its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting is evident.tassa uppādo paññāyati, vayo paññāyati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyati. Whatever feeling …Yā vedanā jātā pātubhūtā …pe… perception …yā saññā … choices …ye saṅkhārā jātā pātubhūtā; consciousness has been born, and has appeared, its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting are evident.Yaṁ viññāṇaṁ jātaṁ pātubhūtaṁ tassa uppādo paññāyati, vayo paññāyati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyati. These are the things for which arising is evident, vanishing is evident, and change while persisting is evident.’Imesaṁ kho, āvuso, dhammānaṁ uppādo paññāyati, vayo paññāyati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyatī’ti. That’s how I’d answer such a question.”Evaṁ puṭṭhohaṁ, bhante, evaṁ byākareyyan”ti.

“Good, good, Ānanda.“Sādhu sādhu, ānanda. Whatever form has passed, ceased, and perished,Yaṁ kho, ānanda, rūpaṁ atītaṁ niruddhaṁ vipariṇataṁ; its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting were evident.tassa uppādo paññāyittha, vayo paññāyittha, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyittha. Whatever feeling …Yā vedanā … perception …yā saññā … choices …ye saṅkhārā … consciousness has passed, ceased, and perished,yaṁ viññāṇaṁ atītaṁ niruddhaṁ vipariṇataṁ; its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting were evident.tassa uppādo paññāyittha, vayo paññāyittha, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyittha. These are the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting were evident.Imesaṁ kho, ānanda, dhammānaṁ uppādo paññāyittha, vayo paññāyittha, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyittha.

Whatever form is not yet born, and has not yet appeared,Yaṁ kho, ānanda, rūpaṁ ajātaṁ apātubhūtaṁ; its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting will be evident.tassa uppādo paññāyissati, vayo paññāyissati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyissati. Whatever feeling …Yā vedanā … perception …yā saññā … choices …ye saṅkhārā … consciousness is not yet born, and has not yet appeared,yaṁ viññāṇaṁ ajātaṁ apātubhūtaṁ; its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting will be evident.tassa uppādo paññāyissati, vayo paññāyissati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyissati. These are the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting will be evident.Imesaṁ kho, ānanda, dhammānaṁ uppādo paññāyissati, vayo paññāyissati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyissati.

Whatever form has been born, and has appeared,Yaṁ kho, ānanda, rūpaṁ jātaṁ pātubhūtaṁ; its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting are evident.tassa uppādo paññāyati, vayo paññāyati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyati. Whatever feeling …Yā vedanā jātā pātubhūtā … perception …yā saññā … choices …ye saṅkhārā … consciousness has been born, and has appeared,yaṁ viññāṇaṁ jātaṁ pātubhūtaṁ; its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting are evident.tassa uppādo paññāyati, vayo paññāyati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyati. These are the things for which arising is evident, vanishing is evident, and change while persisting is evident.Imesaṁ kho, ānanda, dhammānaṁ uppādo paññāyati, vayo paññāyati, ṭhitassa aññathattaṁ paññāyatīti.

That’s how you should answer such a question.”Evaṁ puṭṭho tvaṁ, ānanda, evaṁ byākareyyāsī”ti.

Similar passages elsewhere

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