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  • Linked Discourses 23.5Saṁyutta Nikāya 23.5
  • 1. About Māra1. Paṭhamamāravagga

Ascetics and BrahminsSamaṇasutta

At Sāvatthī.Sāvatthinidānaṁ.

When Venerable Rādha was seated to one side, the Buddha said to him:Ekamantaṁ nisinnaṁ kho āyasmantaṁ rādhaṁ bhagavā etadavoca:

“Rādha, there are these five grasping aggregates.“pañcime, rādha, upādānakkhandhā. What five?Katame pañca? The grasping aggregates of form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness.Rūpupādānakkhandho, vedanupādānakkhandho, saññupādānakkhandho, saṅkhārupādānakkhandho, viññāṇupādānakkhandho.

There are ascetics and brahmins who don’t truly understand these five grasping aggregates’ gratification, drawback, and escape.Ye hi keci, rādha, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā imesaṁ pañcannaṁ upādānakkhandhānaṁ assādañca ādīnavañca nissaraṇañca yathābhūtaṁ nappajānanti; I don’t deem them as true ascetics and brahmins. Those venerables don’t realize the goal of life as an ascetic or brahmin, and don’t live having realized it with their own insight in this very life.na me te, rādha, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā samaṇesu vā samaṇasammatā brāhmaṇesu vā brāhmaṇasammatā, na ca pana te āyasmanto sāmaññatthaṁ vā brahmaññatthaṁ vā diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharanti.

There are ascetics and brahmins who do truly understand these five grasping aggregates’ gratification, drawback, and escape.Ye ca kho keci, rādha, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā imesaṁ pañcannaṁ upādānakkhandhānaṁ assādañca ādīnavañca nissaraṇañca yathābhūtaṁ pajānanti; I deem them as true ascetics and brahmins. Those venerables realize the goal of life as an ascetic or brahmin, and live having realized it with their own insight.”te kho me, rādha, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā samaṇesu ceva samaṇasammatā brāhmaṇesu ca brāhmaṇasammatā, te ca panāyasmanto sāmaññatthañca brahmaññatthañca diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharantī”ti.

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  1. SN 23.6 Ascetics and Brahmins (2nd) 0.96near 0.1Linked Discourses 23.6 1. About Māra Ascetics and Brahmins (2nd) At Sāvatthī. When Venerable Rādha was seated to one side, the Buddha said to him: “Rādha, there are these five grasping aggregates. What five? The grasping…
  2. SN 22.108 Ascetics (2nd) 0.73near 0.1Linked Discourses 22.108 11. Ends Ascetics (2nd) At Sāvatthī. “Mendicants, there are these five grasping aggregates. What five? That is, the grasping aggregates of form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness. T…
  3. SN 22.107 Ascetics (1st) 0.64near 0.1Linked Discourses 22.107 11. Ends Ascetics (1st) At Sāvatthī. “Mendicants, there are these five grasping aggregates. What five? That is, the grasping aggregates of form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness. T…
  4. SN 23.7 A Stream-Enterer 0.61near 0.1Linked Discourses 23.7 1. About Māra A Stream-Enterer At Sāvatthī. When Venerable Rādha was seated to one side, the Buddha said to him: “Rādha, there are these five grasping aggregates. What five? The grasping aggregates…
  5. SN 22.56 Rounds of the Grasping Aggregates 0.53near 0.1Linked Discourses 22.56 6. Involvement Rounds of the Grasping Aggregates At Sāvatthī. “Mendicants, there are these five grasping aggregates. What five? The grasping aggregates of form, feeling, perception, choices, and c…